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  • May 30, 2022

Ep. 027: Christian Dating – The Basics

With Grant Fishbook, , , and Isaac Dagneau

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The first in our two-week series on Christian Dating, pastor Grant Fishbook gives us biblical principles in regards to pursuing healthy relationships.

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Isaac Dagneau:

Hey, welcome to the indoubt Podcast show. My name is Isaac, your host, and today I’m with the lovely Brittney.

Brittney Dagneau:

Hey, guys.

Isaac Dagneau:

We are in a brand new series today. It’s a two week series in which Grant Fishbook… he’s the teaching pastor at Christ the King Church in Bellingham. He came up and did two episodes with us. It was awesome. It’s all on Christian dating.

Brittney Dagneau:

Ooh.

Isaac Dagneau:

Yeah. I told her that she should do that after I say that.

Brittney Dagneau:

Mm-hmm (affirmative) Yeah.

Isaac Dagneau:

Anyways, so Christian dating. This week’s podcast is sort of looking at just the basics. What are the biblical principles for Christian dating? Is it even found in the Bible, that kind of thing, very basic, the foundations. Next week, we’re actually doing a Q&A, where we’ll be gathering a whole bunch of different questions about dating today in the 21st century, and then Grant will be answering those questions.

Isaac Dagneau:

Anyways, I thought before Grant comes on, it’d be kind of fun just to talk a little bit about us.

Brittney Dagneau:

Yeah.

Isaac Dagneau:

Because we are married, which means we did date.

Brittney Dagneau:

We did.

Isaac Dagneau:

We did date. Usually people don’t meet each other immediately and get married. Maybe-

Brittney Dagneau:

Some people do.

Isaac Dagneau:

Some people do. I shouldn’t say that.

Brittney Dagneau:

Yeah. Hey-

Isaac Dagneau:

Some people do.

Brittney Dagneau:

… arranged marriages are still a thing.

Isaac Dagneau:

They are a thing.

Brittney Dagneau:

And if my parents had their way, we probably would’ve been married a lot sooner.

Isaac Dagneau:

You know what, our parents, they knew before we knew.

Brittney Dagneau:

They totally knew before.

Isaac Dagneau:

They did know.

Brittney Dagneau:

That wasn’t fair.

Isaac Dagneau:

We’ll make this pretty quick. I met Brittany, and she was in the library at the Bible college. She was a new student, and I went in there, and I looked at her, and I said, “Oh, she’s cute.” Usually, first year Bible college male students, they’re sort of on the prowl.

Brittney Dagneau:

They’re looking for a wife.

Isaac Dagneau:

They are kind of looking for a wife.

Brittney Dagneau:

Yeah.

Isaac Dagneau:

And I’m just thinking-

Brittney Dagneau:

If you say you’re not, you’re lying to yourself.

Isaac Dagneau:

Oh, I know. I know. And that’s why I’m sort of just saying to everyone listening that that’s really what every single Bible college male is thinking.

Brittney Dagneau:

Yeah.

Isaac Dagneau:

So anyways, I saw her, and I wanted to chat with her. From that point on, we sort of created a little bit of a friendship. But we weren’t spending time one on one or anything like that. It was a very friendly relationship. You were-

Brittney Dagneau:

I think we just smiled at each other in class. That was the extent of our friendship until tour.

Isaac Dagneau:

Yeah, and even when I would start to message her and stuff, and try to get closer to you somehow, you did put up the barriers a lot. You used the friend a lot. Like, “Hey, friend.” And every time I read that, it would just be like, “Ouch.”

Brittney Dagneau:

I know. I was really prioritizing, establishing a friendship with you first-

Isaac Dagneau:

You were.

Brittney Dagneau:

… which is what Grant is going to talk about a little bit.

Isaac Dagneau:

He is, yes. It’s very true. But eventually, there came a point in our relationship where I called her and asked her out. You. I’m talking to those two.

Brittney Dagneau:

I’m right here.

Isaac Dagneau:

I asked you out, and you said you got to think about it. But then the next day you said yes.

Brittney Dagneau:

Right.

Isaac Dagneau:

We went out twice. Sushi and what was the…

Brittney Dagneau:

Coffee.

Isaac Dagneau:

Coffee, that was right. Coffee, that was the other time.

Brittney Dagneau:

Yeah.

Isaac Dagneau:

And I mean, you can…

Brittney Dagneau:

Well, and then I gave you the sad news that basically, I had to dump you.

Isaac Dagneau:

Yeah.

Brittney Dagneau:

I’m not proud of that moment, looking back. But it needed to happen at that time.

Isaac Dagneau:

It did.

Brittney Dagneau:

Because I wasn’t ready.

Isaac Dagneau:

Yeah.

Brittney Dagneau:

I thought I was really mature, but I really wasn’t that mature.

Isaac Dagneau:

I drove home that day very heartbroken. And to be honest… and I told you about this about a month ago… that that week when I got home… that two weeks… I was watching so many romantic movies on Netflix in bed. I watched The Notebook for the first time, and I was bawling-

Brittney Dagneau:

I don’t know if you wanted to share this to all of our listeners.

Isaac Dagneau:

I did. I watched some of them. I mean, that’s not maybe the best thing probably to do. I was still maturing.

Brittney Dagneau:

Did you eat a bucket of ice cream too?

Isaac Dagneau:

No, I did not eat a bucket of ice cream.

Brittney Dagneau:

Okay, good.

Isaac Dagneau:

Anyways, so then finally after two years, I was getting a little older, and I wanted to meet someone. There were different people that I were thinking about, and then one of my friends said-

Brittney Dagneau:

Our friends.

Isaac Dagneau:

Our friend. Our friend.

Brittney Dagneau:

We had a mutual friend.

Isaac Dagneau:

We had a mutual friend. He said, “Hey, have you thought about Brittney lately?” And I said, “Well, no, because she dumped me and I haven’t thought about her.” And then he said those words that sparked my fire again for you. He just said, “Well, don’t think that the door is shut yet.” And then from that point on, then I messaged you, then for a year we dated.

Brittney Dagneau:

Yeah.

Isaac Dagneau:

We were dating for six months.

Brittney Dagneau:

Six month.

Isaac Dagneau:

Then we got engaged and then everything like that.

Brittney Dagneau:

And then we got married.

Isaac Dagneau:

And then we got married. So that’s sort of our dating story. Now there’s lots to talk about there, but obviously we want to get to Grant. Maybe for another podcast, we can talk about some of the things that worked well and didn’t work well in our dating relationship. That’d be a lot of fun. Anyways, at this point though, let’s listen to Grant Fishbook.

Isaac Dagneau:

Well, I’m in the studio today with Grant Fishbook, one of lead teaching pastors at Christ the King Church in Bellingham.

Isaac Dagneau:

Hi, Grant.

Grant Fishbook:

Hi. How are you?

Isaac Dagneau:

I’m very good. Thank you.

Grant Fishbook:

Great.

Isaac Dagneau:

It was great. I just met him. He’s just in the studio today, and I’m super happy to have him. I told him I Facebook stalked him a little bit and Christ the King. I just went to the church and watched some of his sermons. He just seems to be a great guy, so now I’m going to wait and see if you are going to be a great guy.

Grant Fishbook:

Well, we’ll find out.

Isaac Dagneau:

We’ll find out, yeah. Why don’t you just let me know, and our listeners know, just a little bit about you. You said you’re actually born in Canada?

Grant Fishbook:

Absolutely, yeah.

Isaac Dagneau:

Yeah, and how you came to know Christ as well.

Grant Fishbook:

Yeah, so I’m a Canadian flatlander, grew up in Manitoba in a little town called Brandon, married a girl from Saskatchewan when I was at Briercrest Bible College. So I have deep Canadian roots, very much love to come across the border. I’m a missionary to the United States. Somebody’s got to win those people to Christ too.

Isaac Dagneau:

That’s right.

Grant Fishbook:

I’ve been down there for about 20 years. I grew up in a little Baptist church in Brandon, Manitoba, Faith Fellowship Baptist. My folks were a part of the original planting team. So I did, I think, the typical pre-processed Christian thing and then went through one of those subtle spiritual crises where the faith of my parents… did I really want to make it my own? Did I not? Started picking holes. I’m a natural skeptic. I like to ask questions. I don’t like the status quo. I don’t like bumper sticker answers. So I really started pressing in. Went for a nice wandering faith journey filled with all different kinds of doubts, questions. And I think it was sincere doubt. Like, “God, I just really want to know whether this is real or not.” And ended up walking a great big circle and coming right back to the foundation that was placed in me as a young person. Fell back in love with my Bible. I’m a natural storyteller. Some people would say grew up as a chronic liar, and I know what God does to liars. He either puts them in politics or he turns them into pastors. One of the two. So I’ve been telling stories about Jesus ever since, because telling stories that didn’t lead to hope… well, they were hopeless. And so just went in a different direction.

Isaac Dagneau:

That’s amazing. How long was your time in this skeptic sort of doubting stage?

Grant Fishbook:

I would say it probably spanned that whole 16 up through… I went into Bible college as my hand was wide open saying, “I don’t know whether I really, truly believe and buy into this or not.” I had a lot of questions but there was always that bedrock foundation that had been laid there years before. That as much as I resented at the time, it was bedrock for me.

Isaac Dagneau:

Wow.

Grant Fishbook:

So I ended up just coming back to that bedrock and that foundation. I am so unbelievably thankful for it to this day.

Isaac Dagneau:

That’s so cool. Well, thank you. That’s great. Hey, so we’re talking today about a topic called Christian Dating. Sometimes when that topic gets brought up, people start to wonder, “Okay, so how do we figure this out in our head what Christian dating is?” So that’s the topic for today. We have Grant today just to help us hopefully understand just some principles from the Bible to help with this subject. If you’re listening today and you just started considering to date… maybe you’re a young person, 19, 20, 21 years old, you’re considering dating… maybe you’re asking the question, “How do I go about doing this? What can I glean from the Bible to help me in this? What should my intentions be?” Some of these questions. For this first two episodes, we’re going to be getting into Christian dating. The first question is this, is dating referred to in the Bible?

Grant Fishbook:

I would say, no. I mean, you can Google dating in the Bible and you’re going to get a lot of blank, is what you’re going to get. There’s not a whole lot there. The social construct at the time… it wasn’t about dating. This wasn’t the way it was. There was a different social architecture that was placed around it. This is more of a modern phenomenon. But the Bible does have a lot to say about Biblical character, and holiness, and health, which actually means the Bible has a lot to contribute when it comes to the dating construct that people are dealing with today.

Isaac Dagneau:

Right. So then what would you say are some of those Biblical principles, those underlying bedrock principles for dating then?

Grant Fishbook:

Well, having some experience… I’ve got a 23 and a 21 year old

Isaac Dagneau:

Oh, man, you’re right there.

Grant Fishbook:

We’re right there. And our church, it has a large college population so I have a lot of this dialogue with young people all the time. One of the things that I think Scripture keeps calling us to is, it’s not about focusing on the person you’re trying to find, it’s about focusing on the person you’re trying to be. When we really, really press into that, the Bible has a lot to say about your heart, and your character, and your integrity and your passion, and what is God looking for in you. Because I don’t believe you can be a dateable person until you’ve actually done some of that really key identity work deep in the bottom. I think one of the things that I see that young people are really struggling with today is they want to hurry into this process. They want to move very, very quickly. One of my favorite verses… I’m going to actually do a series this fall on the Song of Solomon… and Song of Solomon 8:4 says you’re actually supposed to wait and let love tell you when it’s ready to mature. I see people just like, “Well, I’m going to go experiment with the dating world.” Well, that’s just a recipe for disaster because if you’re experimenting, you don’t really know the purpose of it in the first place. Who are you as a human being? Who are you as a follower of Christ. If you’ve done that hard, healthy work inside of yourself to establish your own identity before you start going and looking, before you go in and paste yourself to the side of another human being, you should probably look at this vertical relationship with Jesus first, and say, “Okay, God, who do you want me to be? What do you want me to know? How do you want me to be comfortable in my own skin before I start seeking any other kind of relationship that’s out there?”

Isaac Dagneau:

Right. Right.

Grant Fishbook:

So I would say it starts with identity.

Isaac Dagneau:

It starts with identity. For someone listening and they start asking those questions, do you think they should feel secure in those questions of who I am and everything before they even consider going out? I guess that’s what I’m hearing you say.

Grant Fishbook:

I would encourage them to actually be thinking that direction. I think it’s very, very important. Before you involve another human soul, are you at peace in your own soul with who God created you to be, the unique package that is you, the unique flavor that you bring into a relationship? Have you dealt with previous insecurities? Have you dealt with your own issues? Have you dealt with some family of origin type stuff? That can really lead you to a place where you can say I’m very comfortable with who I am. I would say before people start that whole idea of, “I want to bring another human being into my life,” have you dealt with the God of the universe, and are you comfortable with your singleness? I want to remind people all the time, Jesus was single. It seemed to work very well for him. We don’t know 100% for sure, but the indications are that Paul was single as well. So are you comfortable in your own single skin knowing that marriage is not an antidote to singleness. It doesn’t work that way.

Isaac Dagneau:

That’s good.

Grant Fishbook:

And yet our culture keeps telling us, “Well, as long as you’re married, it’s going to take care of all the issues.” That’s just lunacy. Because when you think about what marriage actually is, it’s two broken sinners coming together and expecting to peacefully coexist. Well, that’s just nuts. I mean, that’s why I would say marriage is a miracle because the fact that two human beings can actually pursue that and the picture that God has given them, that’s crazy. So as a single person, are you healthy? Do you have a healthy perspective on God? Do you have a healthy perspective on yourself? Are you living in those disciplines where your spiritual life is vibrant? Because I’ll tell you what, a vibrant spiritual life is a great filter through which to be able to look at human relationships.

Isaac Dagneau:

That’s amazing. So say you’re a young adult then, and your view of God is good, and you’re good with yourself, you know your singleness, how does that person then view dating? What is dating to them? Because it’s not just this going to jump into this experimentation kind of place. How should they view dating once they’re comfortable with who they are in Christ?

Grant Fishbook:

Well, I think a part of it is exactly what you just said. It’s not a social experiment. People who see it as a social experiment, I think actually go out and they run the risk of being damaged, and they run the risk of damaging other peoples. Because there’s another human soul attached to every relationship that you’re connected into. So I would say that as a person goes out and spreads their wings socially, that having an opportunity to fall in like with somebody is great. In fact, I told my kids, “Fall in like all you want to. You can like this person, like that person, and have a broad social construct. And then if love awakens itself all on its own, you’re going to know it, and then you’re going to pursue with a mature, healthy perspective on yourself and the other person, an opportunity to investigate this beautiful thing called friendship.” You hear the cliche all the time… “I really want to marry my best friend.” And I would say, “Yes, you do. You actually do want to marry your best friend.” Well, the precursor then would be an actual living, vibrant friendship that reflects God. In the same way that you have a friendship with Jesus, you would have a friendship with this other person where, “I’m not experimenting with your soul. I’m asking great questions about you, and we’re going to actually go on a journey together and find out whether or not something can grow out of this.” If it does, great. If it doesn’t, you still have a beautiful friendship to be able to thank God for.

Isaac Dagneau:

Right. That’s good. What you just said there though, that’s very ideal if you’re able to pursue but then find out, “Oh, maybe this isn’t going to be the right for marriage.” How do you do that well? You hear a lot of stories of people breaking each other’s hearts right there.

Grant Fishbook:

Yeah.

Isaac Dagneau:

How do you do that well and carefully?

Grant Fishbook:

I think a part of it is actually finding social constructs where other people are maturely trying to follow Jesus at the same time. I mean, I see people all [inaudible 00:14:56] and it just breaks my heart when I see… especially college students and young adults… going into environments where there are equally broken people and thinking that somehow out of that, you’re going to be able to find this amazing connection. One of the reasons why we care about small groups, community groups inside of our churches, we want to actually give opportunity for people to meet other healthy people. Because healthy people will find each other.

Isaac Dagneau:

Yeah, that’s right.

Grant Fishbook:

Everybody has a tragic story of, “Well, I went into this environment. What I found was just a whole bunch of other broken, unhealthy people.”

Isaac Dagneau:

Mm-hmm.

Grant Fishbook:

And so what we tell people is, “As you find your way into these social constructs, if you keep pursuing Jesus with everything that you have, you’re going to find other people who are doing the same. You’re also going to run into a lot of people who are not. But if you have the right Biblical filter that says, ‘Okay, this is what a healthy human being looks like. They have a passion for Christ, they have a vital prayer life, they know the Word, they’re comfortable in their own skin,’ those kinds of things actually attract as well.” If you find healthy constructs and you are healthy, you’re going to find other healthy people in those constructs. Stay there and stay faithful for a long period of time. You might be surprised who God brings across your path.

Isaac Dagneau:

That’s amazing. Now you probably just kind of answered the question, but maybe you can speak into this specifically, should someone wait to date until they feel ready for marriage? Can someone be ready for marriage?

Grant Fishbook:

[inaudible 00:16:21] That’s a great question. That’s why I think this invisible idea of a godly Biblical friendship has disappeared. It’s almost passe anymore. It’s like, “Well, no.” I think people get twisted in the idea that, “I can’t even dip my toe into social relationships until I’m ready for this.” But at the same time, how do you know you’re ready? How do you pursue that? I think the way you pursue it is by pursuing Biblical friendship with people.

Isaac Dagneau:

Cool.

Grant Fishbook:

You find a group of people that you love, that you can thrive with, that you like to go out, and experience adventure. I mean, we live in the Pacific Northwest of the States. We live in the lower mainland of British Columbia… you and I at least… lots of opportunities for us to go out, and investigate friendship, and try new things. Then if something comes along on top of that, well, thank God for that, that it’s a blessing that comes out of that. I don’t think there’s a best before date when it comes to relationships or the human heart.

Isaac Dagneau:

Right. That’s so good.

Grant Fishbook:

I just think you need to open your heart and say, “God, I’m open. I’m not actively pursuing… because that always seems to go wrong… I’m not chasing this. I’m going to chase you. I’m going to pursue my relationship with Christ and if God in his sovereignty brings somebody alongside who has an equal degree of passion…” One of the things that’s heartbreaking for me is we have so many young ladies in our church just looking for a godly guy who wants to pursue Jesus more than they want to pursue the girl.

Isaac Dagneau:

Wow.

Grant Fishbook:

I don’t think guys really seem to get it. I keep telling them, “Guys, the young ladies in our church are not looking for somebody who wants to just pursue them. They’re looking for someone who’s pursuing Jesus. And then as a part of that health, they have an open heart and an open door. And if God brings the two of them together, then it’s a beautiful thing because then you’ve got two people pursuing Jesus together.

Isaac Dagneau:

Amen. That’s so good.

Grant Fishbook:

And that’s how it works. My wife actually didn’t want anything to do with me when we first met.

Isaac Dagneau:

Really?

Grant Fishbook:

Because I wasn’t pursuing Jesus. She could see that I had work to do in my own soul. I had character issues, character flaws. She was mature enough and godly enough to step away and say, “I’m not going there until you figure out this other piece. Because more than wanting you to love me, I want you to love Jesus because that’s the only way it’s going to work.” I mean, you can’t love a daughter of God until you love God first.

Isaac Dagneau:

That’s so good.

Grant Fishbook:

Not in a healthy construct

Isaac Dagneau:

That’s so good. Hey, what you just said there… that personal illustration there… what can you sort of encourage young adult women then who like a guy… because obviously your wife must have liked you… but how can you encourage women when they see this guy they like but they know that the guy’s not quite mature yet?

Grant Fishbook:

Yeah. I think a part of being a healthy person is having healthy boundaries. My wife had healthy boundaries. She just understood that there was a brokenness in my soul that God needed to deal with before she wanted anything to do with it. If I was speaking to young ladies, if I was talking to my daughter, if McKenna was sitting here right now… and I’m thankful she has a wonderful young man in her life… but she was mature enough to be able to look for this dream in Alex that he wanted to be a follower of Christ first. I would say to young ladies, “Have healthy boundaries. Be willing to step away. When you see a character flaw or a character issue, be willing to step away and view yourself as someone that’s worthy to be waited for.”

Isaac Dagneau:

Right.

Grant Fishbook:

We have an amazing young adult ministry and one of our leaders there always keeps saying, “I want the daughters of God to understand that they’re a princess not because they’re going to find a prince someday. They’re a princess because their heavenly Father’s a king.”

Isaac Dagneau:

That’s amazing. That’s great.

Grant Fishbook:

Hold onto that and be willing to sacrifice for the sake of, “I want someone in my life who is going to pursue Christ in everything.” Because you’re only going to be the benefactor of that vital relationship with Jesus.

Isaac Dagneau:

To finish this episode here, why don’t you just answer the question how can knowing and looking to Jesus and his Gospel help those who’ve been hurt from past relationships?

Grant Fishbook:

Well, I think everybody carries with them a certain level of wounding. I know I certainly did. To find answers, healing, confession, and repentance in that relationship with Christ, that’s where the healing truly comes in. If you have a wound, you have a heart wound, the answer is not to go out and find another broken sinner in order to try and fix that wound. I encourage all those of us that carry heart wounds… which we all do at certain levels… whether it’s a family wound, or a father wound, or a wound from a relationship that wasn’t healthy enough, when you bring that to the foot of the cross and say, “God, I need you to heal this,” I think that’s a part of pursuing Jesus in everything too. Which is, “God, would you be willing to get your hands dirty in the mess that is my heart right now? Would you help me to focus in the right way and to pursue you with everything?” Because that’s the only place you’re going to find healing that actually lasts. You can delay dealing with pain, but you can never defer it completely. As we come with our broken wounds and we say, “God, I’m just going to trust you. I’m going to be completely honest and open with how broken my heart actually is, and then I’m going to stay here.” I had a good friend that I went to college with who was an prolific songwriter. She wrote a song once called The Holiness of Loneliness. I think there’s a human loneliness inside of each one of us that can only be met in Christ. Once it is met in Christ, then what we find is we’re actually better suited for human relationship because we’ve dealt with that loneliness that pushed us deeper and deeper into the fabric of who Jesus is. That’s where we find healing and hope for the future.

Isaac Dagneau:

That’s so good.

Grant Fishbook:

So take the wound to Him and then let Him heal it. And then whether or not another human being comes into the story, leave that to God’s sovereignty and timing.

Isaac Dagneau:

That’s good. Well, thank you so much, Grant. Next week, we’re going to come back again with Grant, and we’re going to go over some of the questions that we all want answers for when it comes to Christian dating. Thank you so much, Grant, for being here today.

Grant Fishbook:

Thank you. My pleasure.

Isaac Dagneau:

That was Grant Fishbook talking to me about Christian dating, the basics, the Biblical foundations. Really briefly, let’s just touch on a few things that we took from that. The first one, which is sort of the overall kind of basic thing I guess, is that before we even consider dating or seeking out a husband or a wife, we need to be grounded in who we are in Christ.

Brittney Dagneau:

Mm-hmm. Yeah, absolutely.

Isaac Dagneau:

We need to have our identity, and the need for companionship, all those different things, that needs to be fulfilled in Christ. We need to be totally comfortable in our singleness. I think he talked about that as well. Just being comfortable there just so we’re not seeking out a person for the mere want of someone else to fulfill those needs.

Brittney Dagneau:

Yeah. If you do that, then you can run the risk of putting that other person… basically, they become an idol in your life-

Isaac Dagneau:

Right.

Brittney Dagneau:

… instead of Jesus fulfilling that person. All that expectation goes on that person and that can really set you up for a lot of discouragement and disappointment.

Isaac Dagneau:

Yeah, exactly.

Brittney Dagneau:

Further into the relationship because it’s two broken people coming together.

Isaac Dagneau:

Well, exactly. That’s why I think it’s really cool at the end of the podcast, Grant… I asked him, “How good is the Gospel… help heal those that have been hurt by relationships?” The truth is that the Gospel heals by showing the power of Jesus able to come in a broken relationship and say, “All those needs that you were trying to seek out in this person and they failed you, Jesus through the Gospel meets those needs 110% perfectly.

Brittney Dagneau:

Mm-hmm Yeah, and will never fail you.

Isaac Dagneau:

And will never fail you. Even if you haven’t been hurt by a relationship, once you see that all those natural needs that humans have are fulfilled through Christ already. So then you can rest. You can rest in that. Then I think there’s your starting point for beginning that relationship. I think it’s so easy for young adults to sort of… the whole comparison thing. I mean, sometimes the sin of comparison is just put on women a lot of the time. Like, “Oh, women struggle with comparison.” Guys struggle with it just as much, comparing themselves to others. Especially in church culture, they’ll look around and say, “What guy’s doing this? What guy’s doing that?” And when it comes to dating and marriage, there can seem to be such a big comparison thing going on. And on when people are getting married, what kind of people they are marrying, what kind of families, the house they’re…” all those different things all come together. If we can all just kind of shut away those comparisons, shut our eyes, and know that we are in Christ, and safe, and rest in that, I think that’s the starting point.

Brittney Dagneau:

Yeah, it’ll set you up better when you start dating.

Isaac Dagneau:

Yeah, exactly. Yes. So once you start dating, you had mentioned before the podcast that there was something that you listened to from Grant that inspired you to-

Brittney Dagneau:

I mean, he was talking about establishing friendship. I think that’s one thing that we were blessed to have had before.

Isaac Dagneau:

Right.

Brittney Dagneau:

Because I didn’t date around a lot before you, but I had another relationship before and we didn’t have a friendship. It just got really deep and intense, really fast.

Isaac Dagneau:

Mm-hmm.

Brittney Dagneau:

I mean, not every story you’re going to be friends for four years before you start dating.

Isaac Dagneau:

Right.

Brittney Dagneau:

That was our story. But still, when you can establish a friendship with someone… and hopefully it is within a group of believers like Grant was talking about… whether it’s your young adults group, or if it was in your youth group back a couple years ago, or whatever, you already have a Biblical friendship framework to work with.

Isaac Dagneau:

Right. Right. Yeah, exactly.

Brittney Dagneau:

Which sounds funny.

Isaac Dagneau:

Yeah. No, it’s good.

Brittney Dagneau:

But you’ve already established these relationships already. So yeah, I think that’s really cool. It’s looking for Biblical friendship, as Grant said.

Isaac Dagneau:

Right. Anyways, that wraps up the indoubt Podcast. To our listeners, if you guys have some questions of your own, we would love for you to ask them. You can email us at info@indoubt.ca. You can message us on our Facebook page, on Instagram… on a random photo there… or even on Twitter, you can tweet us just to ask questions. We want to take those and we want to help. We want have a conversation, a dialogue about it. Anyways, that wraps up the indoubt Podcast. I’m Isaac.

Brittney Dagneau:

I’m Brittney.

Isaac Dagneau:

And this is the indoubt Podcast show.

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Who's Our Guest?

Grant Fishbook

Grant Fishbook grew up in Manitoba, Canada and attended Briercrest Bible College in Saskatchewan. After feeling compelled to help win the people of the United States over to Christ, he moved to the USA, where he has lived for the past 25 years. Grant is currently Lead Teaching Pastor at Christ the King Community Church in Bellingham, Washington.
Ep_027_1920x1080

Who's Our Guest?

Grant Fishbook

Grant Fishbook grew up in Manitoba, Canada and attended Briercrest Bible College in Saskatchewan. After feeling compelled to help win the people of the United States over to Christ, he moved to the USA, where he has lived for the past 25 years. Grant is currently Lead Teaching Pastor at Christ the King Community Church in Bellingham, Washington.